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Peter Mc  Posts: 77 Group: Moderator Skin: Default | If anyone would like any general information relating to the history of the old RIC, and where available personal details of specific individuals, I would be very glad to offer assistance via http://irishconstabulary.com.
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Post #1 - 08.09.07
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 Posts: 2 Group: Member Skin: Default | Hello Peter,
I have an 1852 Directory of Belfast and the Province of Ulster. Would it help if I posted details of the RIC officers and men stationed in the various towns which are listed in the Directory? Christopher. ----------------- |
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Post #2 - 08.23.07
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Peter Mc Posts: 77 Group: Moderator Skin: Default | That would be very useful Christopher, thanks.
----------------- Peter Mc PICA785; always interested in anything related to the Royal Irish Constabulary See my other sites: RIC Photos and RIC Genealogy |
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Post #3 - 08.23.07
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Posts: 1 Group: Member Skin: Default | Hi, Peter.
I believe my GreatGrand father was in the "RIC" I wonder if you could get me some more info... His name was Richard J.. Gillard. resided in Aughnacloy . His children's names are: Margaret, Richard, John, Bernard, Mary and Eva. Any info you can forwarm me woud be greatly appreciated. ie: his wifes name. date of birth date of death. I believe he lived on Moore St. thank you in advance Ed Kennedy email add: ds167@aol.com ----------------- |
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Post #4 - 08.27.07
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Peter Mc Posts: 77 Group: Moderator Skin: Default | Hi Ed
I think your ggf's service number was 42477 and he would have joined around 1876, probably aged 21. You should contact the PSNI (RUC) Museum at this link - http://www.psni.police.uk/index/pg_police_museum/pg_geneology_information.htm and ask for his service record. That will give you his wifes name and the County she came from, plus other service info that I'll happily translate for you. I don't have the service records of individual men but I do have the microfilms of the officers (Inspectors and above). Gillard does NOT appear as the Sergeant in Aughnacloy in 1893 nor as the Head Constable in 1917 but this means little; he may have moved around barracks in Tyrone or elsewhere in the country. Do you know if he received any medals or do you have any photos? ----------------- Peter Mc PICA785; always interested in anything related to the Royal Irish Constabulary See my other sites: RIC Photos and RIC Genealogy |
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Post #5 - 08.28.07
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Posts: 1 Group: Member Skin: Default | Hello Peter,
I have been looking for information on my Great Great Grandfather "William Owens" He arrived in Port Philip Bay, aged 24 in 1857 aboard the ship Red Jacket. He had been a member of the Royal Irish Constabulary and came to Australia and joined the Police Force in the colony of Victoria. Any information you could find would be great. I'm sorry I don't have any more details to give you. Thanks.. Michael Owens ----------------- |
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Post #6 - 10.06.07
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Peter Mc Posts: 77 Group: Moderator Skin: Default | Michael, I feel that this could be 16608 William Owens based on those dates. Use the info in the previous post about getting service details. He was probably in the Irish Constabulary for only a very short time.
----------------- Peter Mc PICA785; always interested in anything related to the Royal Irish Constabulary See my other sites: RIC Photos and RIC Genealogy |
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Post #7 - 10.08.07
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Posts: 1 Group: Member Skin: Default | Hi there,
Just scowering the net for info on the Black & Tans. I'm trying to locate any personnel records or registers for these men between 1918 and when they were disbanded, particularly for a Bernard Campbell b1900(c). I would be grateful for any ideas to point me in the right direction. Seems everywhere wants to take lots of money from you these days to search for anything. Just noticed on the psni website they are now charging £25 for a search! I'm sure it wasn't that much a year ago when I searched for my grandfather. Regards ----------------- |
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Post #8 - 10.23.07
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Posts: 4 Group: Member Skin: Default | Hi,
I am looking for information on Michael Healy from Ballina, Co Mayo, born around 1882 who was in the RIC, I don't have any more detail. Thanks, John ----------------- |
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Post #9 - 11.01.07
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Peter Mc Posts: 77 Group: Moderator Skin: Default | John - lots of Michael Healy's I'm afraid! You'd have to dig up more details on the man before setting out on searching for service records. Peter Mc.
----------------- Peter Mc PICA785; always interested in anything related to the Royal Irish Constabulary See my other sites: RIC Photos and RIC Genealogy |
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Post #10 - 11.13.07
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Posts: 1 Group: Member Skin: Default | First of all, thank you very much for the offer of help mate ;)
My G.G.G.G.Grandfather, one James George Rogers, is reputed to have been a member of the RIC in it's early years according to respected "historians" in our family. Here is what we know of James George Rogers: He joined the RIC sometime between 1816 and 1840, and at some point he was stationed at Wexford... whilst there, he married a Margaret Kerr (1808-1878), and together they had three children (i.e. Mary - 1834-1917, George - 1836-1902 & Catherine, 1838-1908). James was supposedly murdered (i.e. shot) in the "1840 riots", or so we have been told... Interestingly, at some point the family moved to Dublin, however we are not sure whether the move occurred before or after James was killed. I would presume before, as I can't imagine his wife and children moving alone, but I could be wrong. So, if it was the case that the family moved to Dublin together, then would James have had to re-enlist with the Dublin Police force (as they didn't officially come under the umbrella of the Royal Irish Constabulary until 1867)? Are the service records for the Dublin police pre-1867 separate from the RIC service records Peter? It should be noted that James' widow, Margaret Kerr, remarried in 1844 or so, to one John Beale (They married in Dublin), so James had definately passed away before that year. Finally, although we now spell the family name as "Rogers" here in Australia, the marriage certificate for his youngest daughter, Catherine, spells the father's name as "Rodgers"... In fact someone began writing "Roge...", crossed it out, and then wrote "Rodgers". So, perhaps it is "James George Rodgers", we are not entirely sure. Thank you very much for your time, and I hope to hear from you soon. This post was edited by james_george_rogers on 27th November 2007 - 09:19 PM ----------------- |
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Post #11 - 11.25.07
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Post #12 - 11.29.07
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Peter Mc Posts: 77 Group: Moderator Skin: Default | James_George - the closest link I can find is to a James Rodgers number 3229; who would have joined the Constabulary of Ireland around 1837. The Dublin Police was always separate from the Irish Constabulary and had existed in one form or another since medieval times; the DMP though was formally established in 1836. It had separate registers from the RIC and they are held in Dublin. Your relative may have been Irish Constabulary or Dublin Police, both are possible. Hope this helps, Peter
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Post #13 - 11.29.07
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Peter Mc Posts: 77 Group: Moderator Skin: Default | Briggs - I presume you know all about the ambush itself so won't repeat that here. Constables Cantlon and Walsh were from Roscrea RIC Barracks, Const Feeney was from Borrisokane Barracks along with your great uncle. John Cantlon 52669 was aged 53 and from Carlow, Martin Feeney 65453 (age 32) from Roscommon and William Walsh 55430( age 52) was from Queens County (now County Laois).
If you could tell me more about your great uncle (PM me) I'd be grateful. Peter ----------------- Peter Mc PICA785; always interested in anything related to the Royal Irish Constabulary See my other sites: RIC Photos and RIC Genealogy |
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Post #14 - 11.29.07
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Posts: 2 Group: Member Skin: Default | Peter_Mc,
Was wondering if you have any other info on my GGGrandfather. I got his service record from the RUC Museum but was wondering if there were any other records out there that I was not aware of. His name was William Smyth (sometimes spelled Smith) his RIC number is 13698. He was posted in Fermanagh in 1850, then Tipperary North, Lisheen Barracks (I believe in Moyne) in 1855-187?, then finially ended up in Roscommon from 1875 till he pensioned out in 1880. Thanks in advance !! Paul ----------------- |
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Post #15 - 01.10.08
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